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Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

Is the KJ21 the Word of God?1. It is a updated AV1611.2. The publisher offers a chart about the KJ21 comparing it with modern versions.3. It corrects some of the errors found in the AV1611-1850 KJV....

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Quote:It seems to me that if we had a cup of coffee with either of those views at least we would still have a cup of coffee.But coffee is nasty! It stinks and it isn't good for you. Can't we have a...

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I know where you are coming from, but I've always been impressed by the other side of the coin. Maybe some people got a lot of stuff wrong about the coming of the Messiah, but look how much most of...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

Quote:Grant me this one point, it isn't a big one, perhaps, but it is significant to me. I did not accuse the NIV of being in translational error by it's use of "strain out." I think the NIV generally...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

Quote:Maybe some people got a lot of stuff wrong about the coming of the Messiah, but look how much most of them got right. And look how many people recognized him enough to wonder if he might be the...

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I had read the strange doctrine that Ruckman holds about Christ sometime back and I had lost the reference. I e-mailed pastor Ross and he sent me this reference. PETER RUCKMAN'S VIEW OF THE...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

>The supposed "heresy" that the "word" was also the >"son" from the beginning is so abstract that I am >surprised anyone would use a belief either direction on >that one to constitute...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

>An attempt to arrive at consensus among us before this >controversy erupted would have been beneficial, but that >window has closed.What you're telling me is that God is out of luck.>The...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

I agree the term "heretic" is thrown around way too easily (and has been for centuries). I don't think Ruckman is a heretic either (I think he's saved), but I do think he's "wonky" (another technical...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

Quote:Strain either means "filter" or "effort". It can't be both. Even you can't help admitting that "strain at" refers to effort. Therefore the concept of "filter" is omitted from the KJV.Quote:But...

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>It DOES take effort to filter out things, especially things >as tiny as gnats.Maybe, maybe not. If you want to draw that conclusion - fine - but it's not specified by the Greek text.It's...

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Quote:God never changes therefore Christ never changesJohn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,...

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Quote:Looks like he changed to me! :-)Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and forever.

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I'm not quite sure how to interpret your statement Mitex. Are you arguing against the Eternal Sonship of Christ?You quoted 1 John 5:7. That states that there are three, the Father, the Word, and the...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

Quote:I'm not quite sure how to interpret your statement Mitex. Are you arguing against the Eternal Sonship of Christ?Are you arguing against the "eternal Wordship of Christ"? :-)Trying to explain the...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

Quote:Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and forever. Very good Greenbranch you found a verse. Now, explain to us what it means? Was Christ ALWAYS in the flesh - or did...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

Quote:Well, before incarnation the Father was the Father of mercies, spirits, lights, etc.!So then what was He before the existence of mercies, spirits, lights, etc... ? At some point in the very...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

Quote:Quote: Well, before incarnation the Father was the Father of mercies, spirits, lights, etc.!So then what was He before the existence of mercies, spirits, lights, etc... ? At some point in the...

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Re: Question for KJO'ers about the KJ21

According to you and Ruckman Christ changed via Word to Son.The KJV says:Malachi 3:6 "For I, the Lord, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. John 1:1-3 In the beginning was...

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Quote:1. Where is God ever called "the Father" before all these things?That's what I essentially asked you. What was He before all those things?Quote:2. Where in the Old Testament is God ever...

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